[UCSY] Re: Fwd: Islamization ဆိုတာဘာလဲ ???၊ မြတ္စလင္ဘာသာမွ ကာကြယ္ၾကပါစို႔

Hi brothers

 

Let me give the time as I am in work. This eve we will get the detailed answers about the wives and the war in Islam.

 

Pls read my post regarding Jihad in Islam.

 

Warm Regards, Tin Mg Htwe, 11th Batch, UCSY

2009/10/5 gadone <tnttun@gmail.com>

Well said, Fine for me. So when he married the rest one he must be
over 50 years old and the girl must be much younger than him. It's
also fair as I understand the reasons for the other 11. Ok. I will
close my discussion.

Thanks, everybody. At least we got to know each other that the ones we
are dealing with are good.

On Oct 6, 11:38 am, San Lwin Oo <kosanlwi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, Just want to clear your doubt about Muhammad's wives.
> He had 12 wives. *11 wives are widows and many of them were over the age of
> 40 when they married him*..
> Each of these marriages was for a reason.
> Many of them, the prophet married for protection of these women. Either
> their husbands died in battle, or they were old and needed care.
> First marriage - When he was 25 years old, he married Khadija (a widow, who
> was 40 years old). He stayed married only to her until her death 25 years
> later.
> *When she died, the prophet was 50 years old. Only after her death did the
> prophet marry other women*.
> Second wives was also a 65 years old widow.
> Now, it is obvious that *if the prophet was after physical pleasure he did
> not have to wait until he was more than fifty years old to start marrying
> more wives*.
> For more detail:http://www.islamawareness.net/Muhammed/wives.html
>
> And want to make you more clear about Muslim men can marry 4 wives.
> The Holy Quoran permits but does not command a man to have four wives.
> Furthermore, the Quoran stipulates thate a man *is responsible for the
> maintenance of his wife or wives*. If a man has more than one wife, he has
> to provide separate living accommodation for each of his wives. If a man
> cannot maintain justice in the treatment of his wives, the Quoran stipulates
> that he is to have no more than one wife".
> And there are some reasons behind, for example after a devastating war, many
> women will be unable to find husbands. Most women in that situation, given
> the option, would rather be a co-wife than no wife. If one maintains a
> strict monogamy in such a situation, moral depravity is bound to result.
>
> But some recent men only take the first line - "Quoran permit 4

> wives". Theyignore and hidethe other lines.

> It may be useful at this point to see what some non-Muslim writers are now
> saying on this much misunderstood subject.
> And the Western media also often gives the wrong impression of what Islam is
> all about.
>
> Hope that make you more clear...
>

> 2009/10/6 gadone <tnt...@gmail.com>

>
> > They ask you concerning fighting in the Sacred Months (i.e. 1st, 7th,
> > 11th and 12th months of the Islâmic calendar). Say, "Fighting therein
> > is a great (transgression)[] but a greater (transgression) with Allâh
> > is to prevent mankind from following the Way of Allâh, to disbelieve
> > in Him, to prevent access to Al-Masjid-Al-Harâm (at Makkah), and to
> > drive out its inhabitants, and Al-Fitnah[] is worse than killing. And
> > they will never cease fighting you until they turn you back from your
> > religion (Islâmic Monotheism) if they can. And whosoever of you turns
> > back from his religion and dies as a disbeliever, then his deeds will
> > be lost in this life and in the Hereafter, and they will be the
> > dwellers of the Fire. They will abide therein forever."
> > (Quran - 2:217)
>
> > Is it the one? It's fair enough. But it's different from your saying.
>
> > အသင္တို႔အေပၚ စစ္တိုက္ျခင္းကိုျပဌာန္းေတာ္မူၿပီ၊ စင္စစ္ယင္းကို
> > အသင္တို႔သည္မႏွစ္ၿမိဳ႕ခဲ့ၾကေခ်။ သို႔ေသာ္အသင္တို႔သည္
> > တစ္စံုတစ္ရာကိုမႏွစ္ၿမိဳ႕
> > ၾကေသာ္လည္း ယင္းသည္အသင္တို႔အဖုိ႔ေကာင္းေသာအရာျဖစ္ႏိုင္၏။
> > ထိုနည္းတူအသင္တို႔သည္
> > တစ္စံုတစ္ရာကိုႏွစ္ၿမိဳ႕၏။ သို႔ရာတြင္ ထိုအရာသည္ အသင္တို႔အဖုိ႔ဆိုးက်ိဳး
> > သက္ေရာက္ ေစႏိုင္၏။ အလ္လာဟ္သည္သိရွိေတာ္မူ၏။ အသင္တို႔မူကား မသိရွိၾကေခ်။
> > (အလ္ကုရ္အာန္
> > ၂း၂၁၇)
>
> > But I am curious to know about the wives of Muhammad, are the sayings
> > about them correct? until now I haven't seen any counter explanations
> > for that. I am just inquisitive.
>
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > On Oct 5, 11:04 pm, Tin Maung Htwe <tmh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > *သာသနာေရးတြင္မည္သို႔ေသာအတင္းအက်ပ္အဓမၼမႈမွ်မရွိ။* ဧကန္ပင္လမ္းမွန္သည္
> > > လမ္းမွားႏွင့္ပြင့္လင္းစြာသိသာ ထင္ရွားခဲ့ေပၿပီ။ (ကုရ္အာန္ ၂း၂၅၇)
>
> > > ေဖာ္ျပပါယိုးစြပ္မႈ မလိုမုန္းထားမႈႏွင့္ ဘာသာေရးကို
> > > ႏိုင္ငံေရးဘက္တြင္ခုတုံုးလုပ္အသံုးခ်မႈမ်ားအတြက္ ေျဖရွင္းခ်က္တဆင့္ခ်င္းကို
> > > ၿငိမ္းခ်မ္းေရးလိုလားသူ စာရိတ္တတရားေကာငး္ျမတ္သူအားလံုးတုိ႔အား
> > > တင္ဆက္ေပးသြားပါမည္။
>
> > > *
>
> > > THE PRINCE OF PEACE
> > > *
>
> > > ယေန႔ အေနာက္ႏိုင္ငံမ်ားရွိ အုပ္ခ်ဳပ္သူအႀကီးအကဲတခ်ိဳ႕နဲ႔
> > > သတင္းျဖန္႔ခ်ိေရးမီဒီယာမ်ားမွ ပုဂၢိဳလ္အခ်ိဳ႕က မြတ္စလင္အမည္
> > > ခံအစြန္းေရာက္သမားတစ္စုရဲ႕ ဂ်ီဟဒ္ဆိုတဲ့နာမည္နဲ႔ အၾကမ္းဖက္မႈေတြ ၊ အျပစ္မဲ့
> > > ျပည္သူအမ်ားအျပားကို ေသေၾကပ်က္ဆီးေအာင္ျပဳမႈ ေတြနဲ႔ လူသတ္ဗံုးမ်ားေထာင္မႈ၊
> > > အေသခံဗံုးခြဲမႈ အစရွိတဲ့ ဆူပူေသာင္းက်န္းမႈေတြကို ဒရစပ္ျပဳမူေနၾကတာေၾကာင့္ "
> > > ၿငိမ္းခ်မ္းေရးလမ္းစဥ္ " လို႔အမည္ရတဲ့ အစၥလာမ္ကို
> > > တည္ေထာင္သူအရွင္သူျမတ္ႀကီးျဖစ္တဲ့ တမန္ေတာ္ျမတ္မုဟမၼဒ္(sa)သခင္ကို
> > > မဟုတ္မတရားလုပ္ႀကံမႈေတြ ျပဳလုပ္လာၾကၿပီး မုဟမၼဒ္ဟာ အစၥလာမ္၀ါဒကို
> > ဓားမိုးၿပီး
> > > ျဖန္႔ခ်ိခဲ့တယ္၊ အစၥလာမ္ဆိုတာ ဓားမိုး၀ါဒျဖစ္တယ္ ၊ မုဟမၼဒ္ဟာ အၾကမ္းဖက္သမား၊
> > > လက္တစ္ဖက္မွာ ကိုအာန္က်မး္ကိုကိုင္ၿပီး က်န္တဲ့လက္တစ္ဖက္မွာ ဓားကိုကိုင္လ်က္
> > > အစၥလာမ္ကို ျဖန္႔ခ်ိခဲ့တယ္စသျဖင့္ အေနာက္ႏိုင္ငံေလာကမွ အႀကီးအက်ယ္
> > > ၀ါဒျဖန္႔ခ်ိလ်က္ရွိပါတယ္။
>
> > > အခုလို အစၥလာမ္သာသနာေတာ္နဲ႔ သာသနာေတာ္ကို လက္မြန္မဆြ
> > အုတ္ျမစ္ခ်တည္ေထာင္ခဲ့သူ
> > > အရွင္သူျမတ္(sa)ကိုပါ အတိုင္းထက္အလြန္ မဟုတ္မတရားစြပ္စြဲခဲ့ၾကရံု
> > > မည္ကာမတၱမွ်မဟုတ္ဘဲ သာသနာေတာ္ကို တည္ေထာင္သူ အရွင္သူျမတ္ႀကီးျဖစ္တဲ့
> > > တမန္ေတာ္ျမတ္ မုဟမၼဒ္(sa)ကို ရုပ္ေျပာင္မ်ား ၊ ကာတြန္းမ်ားေရးဆြဲၿပီး
> > > အႏၱရာယ္အရွိဆံုးသူတစ္ ေယာက္အျဖစ္ ေဖာ္ျပျခင္းမ်ားကို ျပဳလုပ္ၾကပါတယ္။
>
> > > ဒါကို " ၿငိမ္းခ်မ္းေရးလမ္းစဥ္ " လို႔ အဓိပၸာယ္ရတဲ့ " အစၥလာမ္ "
> > သာသနာေတာ္ရဲ႕
> > > အုပ္ထိန္းသူမ်ားျဖစ္ၾကေသာ သာသနာ့ပညာရွင္ အမည္ခံပုဂၢိဳလ္အခ်ိဳ႔သည္
> > > ထိေရာက္တဲ့အေျဖကို ေပးၾကရမယ့္အစား မိမိတို႔ရဲ႕ ယံုၾကည္ခ်က္ကို ထိပါးလာရင္
> > > ေစာ္ကားလာရင္ စပ္စပ္ထိမခံၾကဘဲ ေခါင္းေဆာင္လုပ္သူမ်ားရဲ႕
> > > မ်က္ရိပ္ကေလးတစ္ခ်က္မွ်နဲ႔ဘဲ အသက္အိုးအိမ္စည္းစိမ္ဥစၥာ ဂုဏ္သိကၡာအားလံုးကို
> > > စြန္႔လႊတ္လိုက္ၾကဖို႔ အသင့္ရွိေနၾကတဲ့ ရိုးသားျဖဴစင္လွစြာေသာ
> > > အစၥလာမ္သာသနာ၀င္မ်ားဟာ မိမိတို႔ႏိုင္ငံမ်ားအတြင္းမွေနၿပီး
> > > အေနာက္ႏိုင္ငံအလံေတြကို မီးရႈိ႔ဖ်က္ဆီးျခင္း၊
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